I think the metalcore criticisms are outdated - let me bring you up to speed[views:11638][posts:102]_______________________________ [Oct 4,2004 3:30pm - XmikeX ""] New England has seen its share of crapass metalcore/fashion core bands. Thats a fact. But honestly, if you take a look at it, the majority of it is pretty much over. All those kids have moved onto other trends. Youth Crew is the new big trend. All the kids who, a few years ago, considered Daughters and Eyes Like Autumn the end all be all of music all dropped out for a while, some went on to be mods, most were borderline mods for a while, but alot of them started coming back to shows when the youth crew trend took off. It seems like they figured if they all bought Floorpunch records at the same time then they could get away with it without having to stop and question it. So there you go. That's the new trend, borderline mods coming back to pass themselves off as "old school hardcore" kids. I'm sure there's plenty there for you all to work with. annnnnnd go! |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 3:36pm - the_reverend ""] I didn't hear the mosh *ding* |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 3:53pm - attendmyrequiem ""] i think everyone here knows that youth crew sucks, so it doesn't need to get made fun of. whereas there are kids like me who like some of the better metalcore bands, so metalcore will continue to be made fun of until i stop enjoying it... i assume. |
| _____________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:31pm - nick ""] why do people still listen to records? they sound like ass and you can only listen to them where your record player is. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:34pm - jesus hitler ""] records dont sound like ass. they are inconvenient, but i prefer metal on record than on cd. cd sounds glossy to me. records sound louder. personal opinion i guess. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:38pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] records have a little bit better quality than cd. records take the actual original sound quality while cds are sort of weakened because of the dubbing bit rate or some shit like that. let me find that link that explains it... |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:46pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] fuck it... i cant find the site i was looking for... but this sorrt of tells you what is up. http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=vinyl+vs+...o.za/article.php?cat=columns&id=152 |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:50pm - swamplorddvm ""] Still bands (even "metal") need to cut the shit with the break down chugging. Some is good, but as a filler or just cause its "cool", give me a break. |
| _____________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:52pm - nick ""] clearly you would rather use the stationary bike in your parents basement than a sweet fucking 10-speed that goes all over town. bikes are what this argument comes down to. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 4:52pm - swamplorddvm ""] Uh yes. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 4,2004 5:14pm - jake ""] [img] VS.[img] |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2004 5:22pm - XmikeX ""] bottom line: hover bikes |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 5:28pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] urine powered apparatus |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 6:05pm - largefreakatzero ""] There's a band called "Floorpunch"? That's just painfully gay. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 6:34pm - ninkaszi ""] i haven't been to a real hardcore show in MA for years (unless life of agony a few months ago counts), so i have no idea what the trend is nowadays. i stopped going to hardcore shows when bands like barrit, shadows fall, etc. started popping up. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 7:32pm - the_reverend ""] "WE LOVE HOVER BIKES!!!" |
| ________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 10:48pm - XmikeX ""] largefreakatzero said:There's a band called "Floorpunch"? That's just painfully gay. correction, there WAS a band called Floorpunch. They were from New Jersey. I never got into them, but they're pretty well known. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 11:17pm - powerkok ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:records have a little bit better quality than cd. records take the actual original sound quality while cds are sort of weakened because of the dubbing bit rate or some shit like that. let me find that link that explains it... hahahaha are you kidding me? why do you think they stopped making records? they sound like shit. are you on crack kid? yes thats why they invented cd's because the quality isnt as good as a record....hahahahahahahahahaha yer stupid. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 11:25pm - Justin ACR ""] records are more raw and pure |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 11:28pm - attendmyrequiem ""] powerkok said:TheGreatSpaldino said:records have a little bit better quality than cd. records take the actual original sound quality while cds are sort of weakened because of the dubbing bit rate or some shit like that. let me find that link that explains it... hahahaha are you kidding me? why do you think they stopped making records? they sound like shit. are you on crack kid? yes thats why they invented cd's because the quality isnt as good as a record....hahahahahahahahahaha yer stupid. they invented cds because they are more convient. you can't put a record player in a car, but you can a cd player. cds are smaller, so you don't need a huge shelf. they weren't invetned because of the quality. the wave form on the record is more accurate than a CD is. depending on your needle and how good your turntable is why your records sound like shit. what do you think 16 bits means? it means that only 16 bits of information are held within digital audio...which will never be the exact amount as the actual waveform. the day when you get 32 bit 88.2K cds, they will sound better. but calling someone who knows what he's talking about and is completely right stupid is one of the most ironic things. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 4,2004 11:42pm - jake ""] so before this thread gets too serious... DID SOMEONE SAY HOVER BIKES?!?!? ?@ [img] SWEET. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 4,2004 11:49pm - powerkok ""] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you can sit here and scientifically explain how shit is ok to eat and you can live off it, but im not eating it. records are old...theres a reason they were replaced by cds. and 16 bit? what? what is 16 bit? a cd? I burn cds at 24 bits fine. I'll stick to cds. cuz theyre better. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 12:55am - Justin ACR ""] wow, pure ignorance |
| __________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 12:56am - powerkok ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 12:59am - attendmyrequiem ""] powerkok said:I burn cds at 24 bits fine. no you don't. cds can only hold 16 bits. way to continue talking out of your ass. anything above 16 bits has to be held on a dvdr or sacd. i can scientifically prove you have no idea what you're talking about. i also proved to you why cds replaced records... it was not because of quality it is because of convience. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:00am - powerkok ""] Justin ACR said:wow, pure ignorance hahahaha, shut up. prick accepter. Im ignorant for liking the sound quality of a cd over a fucking dinosaur record? OK buddy. Ive had records...ya know why? CUZ I FUCKING HAD TO....there was no other choice. then cassettes. next in 5 years kids will be like 'ahwhh mannn, I like totally like , like the sound of cassettes over digital mp3s, they sound so much like, betterrer and wooow, man, like, Im so pure." |
| _________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:02am - powerkok ""] attendmyrequiem said:powerkok said:I burn cds at 24 bits fine. no you don't. cds can only hold 16 bits. way to continue talking out of your ass. anything above 16 bits has to be held on a dvdr or sacd. i can scientifically prove you have no idea what you're talking about. you can also scientifically prove yer retarded by posting that last post. I can burn a 24 bit cd with my music program..I dunno if all 24 go on the cd, but they burn and play fine. and I can listen to it in my hoverbike stereo. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:03am - attendmyrequiem ""] powerkok said: 'ahwhh mannn, I like totally like , like the sound of cassettes over digital mp3s, they sound so much like, betterrer and wooow, man, like, Im so pure." probably not because the quality of a cassette changes after five plays. they get magnetized and don't give off the correct frequencies anymore. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:05am - XmikeX ""] VVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM my hover bike has a victrola record player. i only listen to 1920s megaphone crooning records. (if you can name that reference you win a prize) |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:05am - attendmyrequiem ""] powerkok said:attendmyrequiem said:powerkok said:I burn cds at 24 bits fine. no you don't. cds can only hold 16 bits. way to continue talking out of your ass. anything above 16 bits has to be held on a dvdr or sacd. i can scientifically prove you have no idea what you're talking about. you can also scientifically prove yer retarded by posting that last post. I can burn a 24 bit cd with my music program..I dunno if all 24 go on the cd, but they burn and play fine. and I can listen to it in my hoverbike stereo. it truncates the last 8 bits. unless you are burning a data cd with 24 bit quality. an audio cd cannot be encoded any higher than 16 bits. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:07am - powerkok ""] attendmyrequiem said:powerkok said: 'ahwhh mannn, I like totally like , like the sound of cassettes over digital mp3s, they sound so much like, betterrer and wooow, man, like, Im so pure." probably not because the quality of a cassette changes after five plays. they get magnetized and don't give off the correct frequencies anymore. = they suck |
| _________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:08am - powerkok ""] attendmyrequiem said:powerkok said:attendmyrequiem said:powerkok said:I burn cds at 24 bits fine. no you don't. cds can only hold 16 bits. way to continue talking out of your ass. anything above 16 bits has to be held on a dvdr or sacd. i can scientifically prove you have no idea what you're talking about. you can also scientifically prove yer retarded by posting that last post. I can burn a 24 bit cd with my music program..I dunno if all 24 go on the cd, but they burn and play fine. and I can listen to it in my hoverbike stereo. it truncates the last 8 bits. unless you are burning a data cd with 24 bit quality. an audio cd cannot be encoded any higher than 16 bits. so does a data mp3 sound better than a audio mp3? |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:13am - Fuck Shit Up ""] I only like hardcore because I can use it as an excuse to act like a total fucking degenerate scum bag. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:14am - attendmyrequiem ""] it's gonna sound like the quality of the original compressed audio file. an mp3 sounds like ass anyway you have it. audio or data cd. listen to the high end sometime. the cymbals get all static sounding...that's enough for me to not use mp3s for anything more than previewing cds. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:59am - TheGreatSpaldino ""] 320 kbps mp3's are cd quality... granted they are like 120012034892348X the file size of a 128 kbps mp3... but still... mp3's are more practical than cds, but only because you can fit about 100 songs on a cd (if you have a cd player that is mp3cd compatible) or you can just have an i-pod or one of those 40 gig mp3 players... but the sound quality is still not as good as a cd or record. you sacrifice a little of the quality for practicality. the cd is practical. not to mention a hell of a lot more durable than a record. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 2:22am - attendmyrequiem ""] cd quality = 1411kbs pretty close to cd quality = 320kbs |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 9:09am - TheGreatSpaldino ""] attendmyrequiem said:cd quality = 1411kbs pretty close to cd quality = 320kbs ahhhhhhhhhhh... that i did not know. i assumed that by "highest quality mp3" it meant that it was 100% of the original. HAH! guess i was wrong in that assumption. damn... 320 kbs isnt even a 5th of the original. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 9:17am - RustedAngel ""] attendmyrequiem said:cd quality = 1411kbs pretty close to cd quality = 320kbs yeah, the human ear is not going to hear a difference between 320kbps, and 1411kbps... even cymbals. 128 vs. 192 you can hear a difference, especially cymbals. 256 vs. 320 almost no difference. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 9:49am - jesus hitler ""] i like owning my favorite bands 7" cuz not every asshole has it. it also sounds better. it just does. i cant even believe theres an argument. records sound better than cds. the end. just because you think they are dumb, it doesnt take away from the fact that THEY SOUND BETTER. maybe only people who actually love music can apreciate it. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 11:15am - tbone_r ""] [img] |
| ______________________________ [Oct 5,2004 11:40am - nick ""] jesus hitler said:i like owning my favorite bands 7" cuz not every asshole has it. i wasnt going to further this argument anymore because honestly i think a perfectly good thread about hoverbikes was ruined by it. however, this is the same shitty elitist attitude shithead nerds who buy every daughters / the locust / whatever 7" that comes out have. im glad people feel better than thier peers because they listen to thier favorite bands archaic multi-colored/and or see through vinyl music disc in one room of thier house. high five. i admit there have been some split 7"s that i have wanted and couldnt listen to, but i dont see that as a reason to buy a record player. and if i did, it wouldnt make me feel better than anyone else listening to music on cd. just like how i dont feel better riding my ten speed fucking cannondale mountain bike purchased from the the bike barn on rt 18 in whitman massachusetts than the people at 'spinning' class at gold's gym riding on bikes that dont go anywhere. dont the needles cost alot of money if they break because they are made from DIAMONDS? |
| __________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 11:54am - powerkok ""] jesus hitler said: maybe only people who actually love music can apreciate it. first of all learn how to spell. second of all, you appreciate music more than anyone else cuz yer a dingbat and own a few 7inch records? Big fucking deal...Ill tell ya about appreciating music. Give up the life you know, to drive 50 miles round trip everyday, to play it. then, pay 500 dollars a month to fund that playing. Then try to get people to get to your shows, so that you can get your music known. What do you do when you get home from work? relax? listen to music? I dont. I rush home to shower and head right back out the door to practice all night. then get up and do the same thing again the next day. Over and Over. Does your family life suffer from your love of music?? Mine does! theres times that I shoulda been home with the fam, but I went to band practice or a band event, instead. Now, who dosent appreciate music as much as you because you have a record album of your favorite underground band? |
| __________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 11:57am - powerkok ""] and p.s. get a sign on name if you want to be taken seriously here. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 5,2004 12:57pm - jake ""] http://home.wanadoo.nl/baco/motorlinks/fantasy/jetbike.jpg |
| _______________________________ [Oct 5,2004 12:59pm - jake ""] [img] [img] http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/VC/B/B/G/S/_/vcbbgs.jpg |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:37pm - jesus hitler ""] hahahahahaha fags. yes, i love a band i want everything by them. how the fuck is that elitist? or i guess it is. i dont know. i dont really care. i would never listen to shit like daughters to begin with. ive been collecting records since ive been about 13. they sound better. its a fact. stop being so caught up in how everyones a scenester and you should do the oposite of what you think scenesters do or whatever the fuck. RECORDS SOUND BETTER. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 1:40pm - jesus hitler ""] actually the more i think about it the more i realize your a total fucking fag if you dont understand that records sound better |
| ______________________________ [Oct 5,2004 2:04pm - jake ""] so jesus hitler, what are your thoughts on hover bikes? |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 2:19pm - jesus hitler ""] hover bikes are awesome. i like the quality. but no hover bikes made after 1986. i cant get into em. they dont...feel right. hover bikes were made by mad scientists of the early 70s and thats the type that should be ridden. anyone who doesnt know that is a fag. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 5,2004 2:28pm - ninkaszi ""] i've had a record player from as far back as i can remember. for me it's simply another way of listening to something. yeah cd's are easier to lug around, but there is plenty of stuff i have on vinyl that i could never get on cd. |